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Pride for Pride

Pride for Pride

By Kiki Spiwak


So. Anyone who knows anything about Serbia knows that this past weekend (Oct 9-10, 2010) was a weekend of pride. Just completely different prides.
On Saturday, I joined over 10,000 attendants in the Family March. Now, the Family March was a peaceful and amazing demonstration against the Gay Parade that was held on Sunday.
Let me clarify some things right off the bat. I do not hate gays and nor do most of those that marched Saturday.
I have many gay friends. However, when it comes to Serbia I do not feel that things can be as they are in the US. Now that may seem to be contradictory, but you have to realize that no two countries are the same and cannot be run the same, no matter how much the US and the West wants this to happen.
That's a political thought for another time though.


Now, many who think they know think I've always been pro-gay and then moved to Serbia and became anti-gay. Both are wrong assumptions. I have no problems with gays, never have. I have always been on the fence with the whole "gay rights" issues. While part of me thinks 'who cares if they love each other,' the other part of me says 'but by all definitions of marriage throughout time, marriage has been one man and one woman'. While I've bounced from religion to religion growing up, I've always felt that marriage and the perfect union is between a man and a woman. Now I know by saying this, I've probably pissed off many of the people I know back home in the US. And while that is not my goal, I cannot please everyone in the world. I am me, get to know, and either like it or don't. I'm sorry.


Now, back to this past weekend. Saturday - beautiful and peaceful Family March in support of Serbian tradition and values of family. Sunday - Pride Parade that ended up messy. Let me clear up some things and fill in you on a few more. Probably heard in the news how the hooligans and right-wing extreme nationalists were the one to blame for the violent riots& well this is but a fraction true. They were the ones involved& but they are not the ones to blame. Ask anyone here in Serbia, even many in the gay community, that the gays are the ones to blame. And I say this not because I'm anti-gay or pro-gay, but because I know what's going on over here. The gays are to blame in this. They knew from the beginning that the parade was not welcomed here. Serbs have never discriminated against gays if seen on the street or at work. They are allowed to have jobs and their clubs and do what they want. The biggest thing is that the Serbs do not want all of that on the streets in front of their children and in the open. The saying is "we keep our sex lives personal and do not flaunt it, please do the same." Now, before this intense weekend, there were never, never, never any issues with gays and homosexuals really. Everyone minded their own business, really. I cannot say that it will stay that way. Hence, the bit of violence on Sunday. Mind you that was only a fraction of the force that could have been applied by the demonstrators. That was a small fraction of those against the Westernization of Serbia, which what this 'parade' was about. True, it was a gay parade, but this parade was put forth in efforts to show that Serbia is ready for EU admittance. But it backfired. It is obvious that Serbs are not ready to give up over 2000 years of culture, tradition, values, and religion. A hint to the West: they never will be ready to give it up either. By allowing the parade to go on, when violence was warned and expected (that's why 5,000 police were out that day), it proved that Serbs were not willing to lay down and die for the Western mentality.


Now. One might ask 'What's so bad about the West?'. Then I would respond "Have you ever lived outside of the West?" Not everything is made to be a melting pot. Melting pots destroy culture and individuality between nations. Why should anyone want to give that up - especially when what they would become is definitely no matter and would damage the society in general? But this also for another post& trust me. Lots of those, I promise!


But you have to realize that Serbs are proud to be Serbs and don't want to be anything or anyone else but Serbs. So allowing Western ideas in is not accepted. This country is 90% Orthodox Christian and conservative Christian at that. Homosexuality is not considered Christian. So everyone that supported the parade pretty much spit in the face of every Serb and everything that Serbia stands for over the last few thousand years. You spit in the face of tradition, of culture, of religion. How would you react if that was done to you? You'd fight to keep what is yours, yours. So do not think that Serbs are just violent monsters ready to start a fight over anything& that's far from the truth. Serbs strictly just want to remain Serbs without influence or manipulation from anyone else. And they have no problems fighting for their cause. The West should realize this.


There were reports that everyday citizens would interfere with the protests coming between the police and the official protesters. Not to stop, but to join in the fact that they did not appreciate the police. Realize the pride of being a Serb& the police who volunteered to be on the streets pretty much betrayed the country themselves. Of course, many officers did it for the extra money as times are tight right now, but many others sold their souls pretty much because they do not care as long as they benefit - much like the politicians here. The protesters are actually madder at the police than the gay supporters. There was even witness to a little old baba spitting on a police officer.


The rest of the world does not understand what truly goes on here and how things work. There is a veil of delusion that needs to be lifted from the eyes of the world to realize Serbia for Serbia, not Serbia for what the West makes Serbia out to be.


So yes, the weekend was violent and tense. Yes, I supported Saturday's march. I hope the government of Serbia realizes what they have done - they have poked a waking dragon that is sleeping in her lair protecting her young. Be careful when you play with fire, people. Someone always gets burned. And remember, Serbs aren't the type to back down and give up.


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Comments:



Marko from Belgrade
2012-01-01 21:34:28
I might say that what you know is partially untrue. You say that there has never, ever been discrimination against homosexuals in Serbia - just look at the report published yearly by the Gay-Straight Alliance - there have been a lot of gay bashings. Then, you say that gays have no problems being seen in the park or having a job - yet, in the next part you say that people have problem when we \"flaunt our sexual life\", because they don\'t. Hey, kissing in the street is showing your sexual orientation, but I don\'t see straight people being beaten up for doing that. Serbian community needs to change, and it will. Slowly, but it will change. It\'s not having sex in the street - it\'s about having a normal life, not being scared you will be beaten up in the street just because you look different (yes, people have been attacked just because hooligans thought they might be gay). The problem is not in the gays - it\'s in the people who just cannot be tolerant and accept differences.
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Disappointed in New York
2012-06-13 21:03:30
I love your blog but I\'m extremely disappointed to hear that you joined an anti-gay march. What were you thinking?! I\'m sure the folks in the anti-gay parade all seemed nice and decent at a glance, just like the anti-Semites in the 1930\'s Germany were all progressive, middle/upper class majority folks who considered themselves progressive and unbiased, but time proved them very wrong as will be the case here. Things may be very different in Serbia than in the US, but lives (and rights to pursue happiness) of an oppressed minority are at stake and it is equally important to respect all people\'s rights in all countries, even if you can\'t relate to them. Gays get killed in Serbia just for having been born gay and having the courage to admit it! What you did is no different than marching against, say, Roma (Gypsies) or battered women! I\'d say you\'re not very close friends with your gay \"friends\" or you would have understood them better. Many gays consider themselves Christians. Also, many non-gay progressive Serbs consider themselves not Christians but atheists and recognize that the meddling of Church in State matters is very primitive. So once again Christianity is used as an excuse to separate people - did we not learn a lesson from the decade known as DEVEDESETE??
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Branko
2012-06-14 12:01:56
@Disappointed in New York, - I am not sure where you get your information from but no gays have been killed in Serbia as a result of their sexual orientation. Other than that I agree with most of your thoughts.
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